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How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:25 pm
by RobH
Hi guys. What would be a sensible amount of timing to remove as a safe starting point for a Z32 running 1.4bar with all supporting mods? How many degrees and starting at which load column in the timing map? My guess was 5 degrees from the mid load column onwards, I have more trouble with knock in mid range than at high load. Is it worth 'smoothing' the timing map around the retarded area, bearing in mind it's only a temporary change and wil need fine tuning on the dyno...?

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:19 pm
by PL
Yeah, 5 degrees across the whole high load area would be a reasonable way to start with some degree of safety. Although before any tuning takes place you shouldn't really be using that part of the map anyway.

PL

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:24 am
by RobH
Thanks Pete. Not sure how much I'd taken out initially, may only have been a couple of degrees, retarded the whole upper right hand corner of the map by at least 5 degrees now, and it seems to have done the trick. Driving sideways now with very little provocation ;)
Dyno time i think...

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:05 am
by sky Z
For safety take -1ยบ degree for +1 pound of boost increase

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:40 pm
by bachig24u
how do you go about running 55psi in a 1.8L running E85 in that case making 1200HP at 24deg BTDC?

start at 79deg BTDC?

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:47 pm
by skylinegtrhr
bachig24u wrote:how do you go about running 55psi in a 1.8L running E85 in that case making 1200HP at 24deg BTDC?

start at 79deg BTDC?
big LIKE :)

As soon as car starts drive it with minimum load under boos to dyno and do it properly , don't go sideways and in boost before that is only safe way ...

Re: How much timing to remove initially for high boost Z32?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:13 am
by bachig24u
LOL... no chance.
This little blue Honda Civic won't actually make boost until around 6500rpm and its far from getting a roadworthy certificate.